In this shooting velocity and accuracy Field Test Video of the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol, I “try to” test out what the velocity in fps using a standard 12 gram CO2 along with 7 grain .177 caliber lead pellets shooting 5 rounds through my Chronograph. The claimed fps for this pellet shooter is 332, not sure if that is with lead or alloy pellets? I then setup a fresh paper target 30 feet down range here in the Sea Can and shoot 6 rounds into it using a semi rested shooting position to find out if the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol can get all 6 rounds out the barrel and if it can place them any where near the bullseye out of the box. And if it can also get a decently tight grouping. If you have not already watched my Table Top Video Review for the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol, then make sure to check that one out for details, specifications and some nice close up 4k video. It is a pretty sweet looking Airgun!
First, my velocity test of the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol, I “try to shoot” 6 rounds through my Chronograph and then averaged them all out as I do in all my Field Test Shooting Videos. I did not have a lot of success with my first choice of pellets and pretty much got a jam right away. I then switched up the pellets and I was able to get 5 out of the 6 rounds in the one side of the rotary mag through my Chronograph and here where the results… The slowest shot was 206 fps while the fastest shot hit 251 fps, this averaged 231 fps which was kind of far off of the claimed 332 fps. Maybe the claim is for light weight alloy pellets? I don’t know? To be honest I was just glad to get a result as I was not having a lot of luck with the rotary magazine working for me all that well.
I then tried my luck again and placed a fresh paper target 30 feet downrange and using a semi rested shooting position (hands rested on a sandbag up front and sitting on a stool in the back). Luck was on my side as a succeeded to place all 6 rounds into the target with no jams this time! The Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol did alright in terms of accuracy placing 4 shots all within about an inch and a half well centered just a bit high of the bullseye. Two shots did drop down as they seemed to come out underpowered compared to the other 4 shots which does explain why they dropped a bit on the target. This did stretch out the grouping to closer to around 4.5 inches.
Rotary pellet magazines are for sure never as consistent as vertical stick type magazines shooting round BB’s. There is always going to be some jamming that happens especially if the pellets you pick do not fit perfectly. Once I found a pellet the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol liked a bit more, I did have better success with only the occasional jam. Power was not great as you saw with my velocity test. Accuracy was for sure much better and if the velocity was more consistent then I am positive 1.5 to 2 inch groupings would be possible! The trigger is OK but loaded up with pellets does tend to drag a bit more than when empty and make you work a bit harder with that trigger finger, but it does get the job done. The best part about the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol would be its looks and how it feels in the hand for sure, the stainless finishes gives it a quality look so if looks are more important than performance and you want a sweet looking stainless 1911, this may be your pick.
Type: Non-blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol. Manufacturer: Distributed by Cybergun. Model:Thompson 1911 Materials: Metal and plastic. Weight: 2.18 pounds (990 grams). Total Length: 8.66 inches (220mm). Barrel: 4.75 inches (121mm) metal rifled. Propulsion: CO2 x 1. Action: Semi auto non-blowback, DOA trigger. Ammunition Type: .177 caliber pellets. Ammunition Capacity: 12 (6x2) round drop out metal magazine. FPS: Claimed 332.
Trigger Pull: The Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol is typical of a double action trigger in that it is a longer trigger pull that requires more effort to pull than a single action trigger would. The Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol trigger is good for a DOA trigger as it is not overly heavy and does allow for somewhat quick follow up shooting. The trigger pull not only cocks the hammer, it also rotates the rotary magazine on either end of the stick magazine so there is a lot going on here but it still is not overly heavy which is nice.
Accuracy: I have yet to shoot the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol or performed my standard Field Test shooting Video so I can not comment at this time on the performance other than what is claimed in terms of fps (332). In terms of accuracy I am hoping it will perform well being not only a pellet pistol but since it also has a rifled steel barrel this may help with accuracy. We will find out shortly when I make my Field Test Shooting video of this CO2 Pellet Pistol.
Build Quality: The Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol has a mix of metal and plastic parts with the slide and magazine being the main metal parts and the frame along with most of the controls like the trigger, slide catch release, hammer and safety all being made out of plastic. Of course many of the internal parts like the barrel will be metal or even steel. Overall the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol feels solid and has a good weight up and over 2 pounds. Fit and finishes are also good but I would have liked to have seen the trigger, hammer, slide catch and safety being made out metal, as it just would have felt better to the touch. Yes I can feel the difference!
Realism: The Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol looks pretty much bang on to a Colt 1911, really the big tell would be the trigger as it is much larger than a standard 1911 to accommodate the double action trigger pull length but other than that, this CO2 Pellet Replica Pistol does a good job of replicating the real steel version. It is even similar in weight and feel. The recessed barrel, full size drop out magazine, and I think the detail of the stainless finish on the slide all add to the realism.
Pros:
Double action trigger is not that bad, fairly light and smooth.
Fit and finish looks good, just wish the trigger, hammer and safety where also metal.
This pistol has a good weight at a little over 2 pounds!
Decently looking replica of the real steel colt 45 1911.
Has a rifled metal barrel which may help with accuracy..
White dot sights front and back helps with quick targets acquisition.
I like the stainless steel slide, it gives the gun a quality look.
Recessed barrel for added realism.
Full size metal magazine holds the CO2 and Pellets and adds additional weight.
Thompson Licensing looks good on this gun, not too much.
Cons:
Trigger, hammer and safety should have been made out of metal.
Hammer is non functioning.
No blowback and no sight adjustments.
Comments:
The best feature of the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol is the stainless steel slide finish which really gives it a quality look and makes it even more believable. What takes away from the believability are the plastic parts and the lack of blowback operation or even a working slide. That said the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol offers a rifled steel barrel combined with shooting pellets which should make this a more accurate option over perhaps a Blowback CO2 BB 1911. I will have to test this out shortly to know for sure but if accuracy is more important than realism, than the Cybergun Thompson 1911 CO2 NBB Pellet Pistol may be your better option.
I’ve got some new Airguns to show everyone today and all of them are Pistols of some sort or another. I show you three 4.5mm BB Pistols from ASG, a Cybergun 1911 NBB BB Pistol, an Airsoft Full Blowback Pistol from EMG and lastly from Umarex, an HK Full Blowback Airsoft Pistol. This is not a full review by any means, the video is mainly to let you know what is coming up in terms of Table Top and Field Test Videos and that we do have these products at least listed in our Replica Airgun Store.
I have been looking forward to making this Filed Test Shooting Review for some time now. I have reviewed lots of other KWC CO2 BB 1911’s in the past but this is the first pellet shooting version and it even has a full size drop out metal magazine that holds the CO2 and duel 6 round rotary magazines. Sure there is no blowback operation and the trigger is double action only but it does have a rifled barrel and I was hoping it would get decent accuracy because of this. Let’s find out…
Starting with my Chronograph test to see if I could hit the 345 fps claimed velocity on the outside of the KWC M1911 Non-Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol Box, as always I used a brand new CO2 cartridge for testing. I then loaded 6 RWS Super-H-Point 6.9 grain lead pellets into the 6 round rotary magazines and fired off 6 shots to get an average. Even using these lead non-hypervelocity pellets I was able to get an average of 341 fps with some of the faster shots hitting 350 fps so yes the KWC M1911 Non-Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol does get the pellets up to 345 fps as claimed by KWC. The temperature was about average at right around 24 degrees Celsius or 75 degrees Fahrenheit.
Time for the accuracy potion of my Field Test Shooting Review for the KWC M1911 Non-Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol. Since the KWC M1911 Non-Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol has twin 6 round rotary magazines, I decided to shoot them all off and get a 12 round grouping on my paper target setup 30 feet down range shooting from a seated and rested position. My first 6 rounds all hit well within 1 inch or less of each other about 1.5 inches high from the bullseye and just a tad to the left. I then rotated the KWC M1911 Non-Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol 6 shot rotary magazine to the remaining 6 rounds and again almost all of them shot right on top of the first 6 rounds, I did pull one shot a bit that hit low and then may have pulled another shot just a little bit high from the 1 inch group but 10 of the 12 rounds ended up making a nice 1 inch hole in the target.
Even though the KWC M1911 Non-Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol has a double action only trigger, it is very usable in terms of placing accurate shots on target. The trigger is really not too heavy and does have a predictable break and release point to it. The gun holds just like any other 1911 I have shot but is slightly lighter and a little bit top heavy since it has a polymer frame to go along with the metal slide and magazines. If you’re looking for a realistic looking and feeling pellet firing 1911 with decent fps and excellent accuracy then look no further than the KWC M1911 Non-Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol.
The question comes up often about which Airgun to buy. Customers are wondering when they are looking at a specific Airgun and they see several similar products but from different companies, are they the same gun and if so which one should they decide to buy?
One of the biggest Airgun suppliers out there is for sure KWC, their BB and Airsoft guns are redistributed through companies like Umarex, Crosman, Sig Sauer, ASG, Gletcher and more. Often times the companies that redistribute KWC Airguns hold licensing agreements with real gun manufacturers like Smith & Wesson, Glock, Colt, Beretta, Sig Sauer, Taurus to name a few… KWC makes the Airguns in their Taiwanese factory but they are not allowed to put a real gun manufacturer license on the Airguns they distribute directly so KWC distributed Airguns will generally be all black.
I have also seen companies like Umarex distribute a new KWC Airgun that I have not seen yet from KWC, I believe KWC works with these big name Airgun companies directly and will build a new gun or variation of an existing KWC Airgun for them and give that Company an exclusive for a period of time. KWC will eventually regain the rights to sell that Airgun model directly after 6 months to a year.
Now that you know a little bit more on how it all works let’s get back to whether you should buy a KWC branded Airgun or other Brands same Airgun. It really comes down to I would say three factors. Do you want a Licensed version of the Airgun you are buying? Is there a price difference? Which gun is available to buy when I am ready to buy?
When you buy the Licensed version of the KWC Airgun redistributed through a third part Airgun Company you will often get a lot more writing on the Airgun than just the Gun Manufacturers name. Warning information comes to mind and does not look all that attractive on the slide where it is usually found in bright white lettering. If you like a cleaner look and don’t mind the lack of licensing then the KWC distributed version will generally be all back, nice and clean looking.
You would think buying the KWC Version that is sold more directly to the end customer would be the less expensive of the options because less hands are involved in the selling process. This is not always true, it is more about supply and demand, if more people want the cleaner looking KWC version but it’s harder to get ahold of than the price of the KWC version may actually be higher than say the Umarex or Crosman version. So shop around if price is the deciding factor as the guns are going to be mechanically the same with just some slight cosmetic differences between them.
Lastly, availability maybe what eventually leads you to buy a KWC version over an Umarex, or Crosman or Sig version since if the gun is not in stock well you may have limited options and so the one in stock is going to be perhaps your only option! Don’t feel like you got short changed, again these guns are virtually all the same at the end of the day no matter if you buy it from KWC, Umarex, Crosman, Sig Sauer, ASG, Gletcher or whomever.
Type: Pellet air pistol. Distributer:KWC. Model: M1911. Materials: Metal and polymer build. Weight: 2.2 pounds (990 grams). Barrel: Rifled steel. Propulsion: CO2 x1. Action: Semi auto non-blowback, double action only. Ammunition Type:.177 caliber pellets. Ammunition Capacity: 12 rounds. FPS: 345.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the KWC M1911 Non-Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol is not what your would expect from a real steel 1911 since the KWC M1911 Non-Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol is a double action only shooter as com[pared to a single action only trigger like what you would find on an actual 1911. That said it works fairly well as long as you make sure to full release it after each shot, short releases may result in the hammer not going back all the way. As with most double action triggers it is a bit long and heavy bit not unusable, just the prepared to get a little bit of a finger workout.
Accuracy: I have not shot the KWC M1911 Non-Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol just yet but will be doing so shortly so stay posted for my Field Test Shooting video for the KWC M1911 Non-Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol. I expect it to do fairly well in terms of accuracy and power since there is no blowback and the barrel is rifled.
Build Quality: The KWC M1911 Non-Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol is built just like all the other KWC airguns, it’s not going to be the best quality you have ever seen but it is very good and KWC has been making airguns for a while not not just for themselves but for other companies like Umarex, Gletcher, ASG, Crosman and even Sig Sauer. You will find metal on this gun where it matters… The slide, full size drop out metal magazine and of course lots of internal parts. The frame, trigger, fake hammer, magazine release and slide catch are all plastic. Fit and finish is good overall.
Realism: The KWC M1911 Non-Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol really does look and feel like a real steel 1911 A1 pistol with the exception of the trigger. everything is is really believable even though not all parts are work like the slide, slide catch release, fake hammer… On a real 1911 A1 the frame would also be metal adding to the overall weight but the KWC M1911 Non-Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol comes in at 2.2 pounds so it’s no lightweight and with the metal magazine in the hun it has good balance to it.
Good weight and solid feeling gun. Lots of metal where you need it.
All metal full size drop out magazine holds CO2 and 12 pellets.
Decent looking replica of 1911 A1.
One of a few CO2 1911 pellet pistols out there.
Recessed barrel helps with look of realism.
Rifled barrel will help with accuracy.
Non-blowback operation with increased fps and CO2 efficiency.
More realistic looking than the Umarex pellet 1911 for a lot less money.
Cons:
No blowback - slide does not move either.
Hammer moves but does not cock so no single action shooting.
Trigger action is bit heavy but not not too bad for a double action trigger.
Comments:
I’m a bit on the fence with the KWC M1911 Non-Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol. It looks really good and has a lot of potential in terms of power and accuracy over the Cybergun/KWC Blowback BB version which has always been a favorite of mine. Maybe it will impress me when I get to my Field Test Shooting Review for it but will it be enough to win me over the realism of shooting the full blowback BB version? I guess we will have to find out!
My Vimeo Videos for the KWC M1911 Non-Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol:
Some new guns came in for me to highlight, some will get full reviews and some are KWC unlicensed versions of some Airguns I have already reviewed so this unboxing update video will suffice for them.
In this comparison video I look at a variety of different 1911 Airguns and compare them to each other to determine which one I feel is the best 1911 Airgun, well at least for me.
