In this Table Top Comparison Vimeo Video I take a look at the full line of Sig Sauer distributed Replica CO2 Blowback Airguns and pick out my favorite 4.5mm Steel BB and .177 Caliber Pellet shooters out of the bunch. You will have to watch the video to see what my two picks are!
I will say right off the bat this Field Test Shooting Video for the Air Venturi 3000 PSI Aluminum HPA Tank with Stock and Adapter did not go as well as I would have wanted it to! The HPA tank itself worked really well but I believe the adapter was faulty as it was destroying the seals on my tank and not regulating very well.
I still wanted to publish this video regardless as not all reviews go as planned, some fail horribly but I would rather be honest and transparent about it rather than have you believe every product is a perfect.
There will always be problems even with really great products there can be defects. I plan to get a new adaptor and try this Field Test Review Video again but for now you can have some fun watching me at least have some success using the Air Venturi 3000 PSI Aluminum HPA Tank with Stock on my Rap4 Rap5 MP5.
You can also watch my Table Top Review Video for more details and info on this product!
Looking at the 2016 US version of the Sig Sauer ASP MPX .177 Cal. Pellet Rifle verses the more resent Canada version we have in our Canada Replica Airguns Store it is hard to really see any difference other than my US version is all black and Canada version is two tone desert tan with black highlights. To be honest I really like both color schemes but that will be a personal preference.
In this Field Test Shooting Comparison video my main goal was to see if there is any significant performance difference between the two versions. Did Sig Sauer perhaps detune the Canada version as is often the case with Canada versions of Airguns? Did Sig Sauer make any changes internally and improve the accuracy or shooting characteristics of their newer Canada model?
I am happy to say both version performed really similar, maybe the US version shot just a little bit hotter but they where within around 5 fps of each other so the same test on a different day could yield the opposite results. The same is true for my accuracy test shooting 10 rounds 30 feet downrange on a paper target. This time the Canada version shot just a tad bit tighter I would say just under an inch grouping but then again the US version was really close with really only 1 pellet extending the grouping out just over an inch. A different test I am sure and the results may be switched? After all I am only human and this was all shot using the open sights on both guns using a sand bag as a rest and sitting in a chair in the back to help with stability.
The Sig Sauer MCX ASP .177 Caliber CO2 Pellet Rifle is my third go around with the Sig Sauer ASP Series of MCX and MPX Air Rifles. Back in 2016 I tested out the Sig Sauer MPX ASP .177 Caliber Pellet Rifle and it performed pretty well for me. Recently I reviewed the Sig Sauer MCX Virtus PCP .22 Caliber Pellet Rifle and again got good results once I figured out the right pellet for it. So here we are again with a very similar Sig Sauer Air Rifle.
Starting with my Chronograph velocity testing for the Sig Sauer MCX ASP .177 Caliber CO2 Pellet Rifle, I used a brand new Sig branded 90 gram CO2 cartridge along with 6.9 grain RWS pellets. The temperature was 24 degrees Celsius (75 degrees Fahrenheit) in the Sea Can Indoor Airgun Shooting Range. Sig claims the Sig Sauer MCX ASP .177 Caliber CO2 Pellet Rifle to shoot up to 5.7 Joules. My Chrono testing resulted in an average fps of 418 with the 6.9 grain lead pellets which yielded a 3.7 Joule (2.7 foot pound) power output. I was not expecting 5.7 joules as that would have been closer to 600 fps using 6.9 grain pellets.
Next I setup a fresh paper target 30 feet down range and using seated and rested shooting position I placed 10 rounds into the target. The Sig Sauer MCX ASP .177 Caliber CO2 Pellet Rifle shot a decent 1.5 inch 10 round grouping but I am pretty sure I can get better results once I find the right pellet, I have found this especially to be true with Sig Air Rifles. My MCX Virtus was able to get 1/2 inch groupings at 50 feet once I found ammo it liked and my MPX also shot a bit tighter form 30 feet out with a different ammo selection. I then unload the remaining 15 rounds in to the target rapid fire, followed by another 30 round full magazine and the grouping only stretched out a little bit, closer to 2 inches. Shots placed on the target a little bit low and to the right but this can be easily corrected for consistent bullseyes using the fully adjustable sights.
The Sig Sauer MCX ASP .177 Caliber CO2 Pellet Rifle performed well for me in general, I did find that occasionally the belt did not index resulting in a misfire (no pellet fired) but the next pull of the trigger would index the belt resulting in a pellet firing, there where no jams and all rounds from the belt where fired. I am not sure why this happened as this did not happen to me with my other Sig Sauer Air Rifles. Perhaps I short triggered it a bit not getting a full belt index. I know many of you have been waiting for a Canadian version of the Sig Sauer MCX ASP .177 Caliber CO2 Pellet Rifle, now that we have them in the All Black Iron Sight Version and FDE Red Dot Version, make sure to get one as once we run out I am pretty sure we will no longer be able to get these Canada Import Legal Sig Sauer MCX ASP .177 Caliber CO2 Pellet Rifles.
The Sig Sauer MCX Virtus PCP .22 Caliber Pellet Rifle is one that you are really going to want to take outside and set targets up around 50-60 feet await make it a little more challenging adn I do plan on getting outside with the Sig Sauer MCX Virtus PCP .22 Caliber Pellet Rifle in a bit once the weather gets a bit nicer and have some fun shooting at longer ranges. For now I wanted to at least get out my Indoor Field Test Shooting Video where I can Chronograph the Sig Sauer MCX Virtus PCP .22 Caliber Pellet Rifle and also see what it can do shooting at 30 feet out.
Sig claims the Sig Sauer MCX Virtus PCP .22 Caliber Pellet Rifle to shoot .22 caliber lead pellets at up to 700 fps with a power output of 12 foot pounds. Using 14.5 grain lead pellets I placed 6 rounds though my Chronograph and averaged 585 fps with the fastest shoot hitting 611 fps. Keep in mind there are much lighter lead pellets out there and when it comes to alloy pellets they drop in weight even more so hitting 700 fps with a light grain lead or alloy pellet is very realistic. What about Sigs claimed 12 foot pounds of energy? I did the math and using a 14.5 grain pellet with a maximum velocity of 611 fps, these numbers produce just a hair over 12 foot pounds! Mission accomplished :)
What about accuracy, I have seen a few claims online that the Sig Sauer MCX Virtus PCP .22 Caliber Pellet Rifle is not the most accurate Pellet rifle out there and you know what I don’t think that was the absolute intension when Sig thought this one up. After all it is a semi auto high capacity Airgun replica, not a target rifle. I still like to find things out for myself so of course I performed my accuracy test for the Sig Sauer MCX Virtus PCP .22 Caliber Pellet Rifle shooting 10 rounds into a fresh paper target from 30 feet back using a seated and rested shooting position. For this test I was using a red dot scope with a 3x magnifier on it. My first 10 rounds did OK producing just over a 1 inch grouping, not super great but most of the rods (8 of them) all struck the target within about 3/4 of an inch.
At this point decided to empty the rest of the magazine so about 15 rounds on the same target to see if the grouping stayed the same or maybe even speed out a bit. I was a bit surprised to find that my second 15 shot grouping all stayed within the higher 10 shot group again producing about a 3/4 inch grouping with just those two first test outliers? Maybe it was me, maybe it was the pellets, maybe it was the Sig Sauer MCX Virtus PCP .22 Caliber Pellet Rifle? The good news is you have 30 rounds to hit your target so even if a couple of them stray a bit you still got 28 left to get the job done.
The Sig Sauer MCX Virtus PCP .22 Caliber Pellet Rifle is one of the coolest Air Rifles I have tested and now own, not only is it a great Replica Airgun but it also performs well and can be used for plinking or small pest control. All at even a fraction of the cost of shooting 22LR rounds and that’s not even that expensive compared to 9mm and larger ammo. Let’s hope Sig Sauer makes a detuned Canada version so we can offer it up in our Canada Replica Airguns Store and if you live in the US then checkout the US Store for Sig Sauer buying options.
The expectation is going to be high with the Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol since it is called the “Super Target” right! In terms of 350 fps well I guess it’s not really anything to wright home about but for a target pistol this velocity is more than enough. What matters most is consistency of each shot as that can effect the trajectory which in tern will effect the elevation of each shot. At the end of the day with a Target Shooter like the Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol what I’m really looking for is consistency.
Let’s start with the Chronograph portion of my Indoor Field Test Shooting Review for the Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol. Sig Sauer says I will get around 350 fps and spoiler alert I got exactly 350 fps shooting a 3 shot string. I only shot 3 rounds since all shots where very close together at 353, 347 and 350 fps. Remember what I was saying about consistency, that’s pretty consistent. I was using Sig Sauer Wad Cutter Lead pellets for all of my testing and since the Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is not a CO2 Airgun room temperature was not a factor.
Moving on to the accuracy portion of my testing for the Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol. I was originally going to shoot 10 rounds but decided to go with 5 since between shots I need to open the Airgun, place a pellet in the barrel and then close and cock the Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol. I then need to reset my hand position on the sand bag and place another shot on target. All of this really breaks up the shooting rhythm which makes it a bit harder to be as consistent when compared to simply pressing the trigger between shots. I was shooting 30 feet away from my paper target using a seated and rested shooting position. It’s kind of hard to say exactly how tight my grouping was since the paper ripped a bit but looking back later at the video I am pretty sure all of the shots where pretty much on top of each other getting under a 1/2 inch grouping. The ripping of the paper made it look like the grouping was larger than it was.
All in all the Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a very consistent and accurate Single Pump Pneumatic Target Air Pistol that I would agree with lives up to the name “Super Target”. Make sure to also checkout my Table Top Review for the Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol where I go into the details and specification for the Sig Sauer ASP Super Target.
Type: Pellet Taget Pistol.
Manufacturer: Sig Sauer ASP
Model: Sig Sauer ASP Super Target
Materials: Metal and Wood build.
Weight: 2.1 Pounds (953 grams).
Barrel: 7.5 inch steel rifled.
Propulsion: Single-shot over-lever single-stroke pneumatic.
Action: Single action 2-stage adjustable trigger.
Ammunition Type: .177 caliber pellets.
Ammunition Capacity: 1 round.
FPS: 350.
Trigger Pull: The single action only trigger pull on the Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is fantastic right out of the box. I personally felt no need or desire to tamper with it as the trigger is crazy short and very light. That said if you feel the need to play around with the trigger adjustments you can as the ASP Super Target has a 2-stage adjustable trigger.
Accuracy: So far I have not done my official Field Test Shooting Video for the Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol , I did crack a few free standing shots down range in my Indoor Airgun Sea Can Shooting Range and was impressed with not only the trigger feel but how peppy the ASP Super Target felt. Sig claims a 350 fps velocity using lead .177 caliber pellets but I got the feeling they may have been moving faster than that? In terms of accuracy I was not shooting rested so it’s hard to say but I am expecting the Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol to be a tac driver for the price that you will pay for one!
Build Quality: The build quality for Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is good, it feels solid and well made, the finish is also good but I did notice a slight casting imperfection on the front sight. I have found with Italian made Airguns they can sometimes have a few finishing flaws but overall they are mechanically very well made which is more important at the end of the day, but still for just under $500 Canadian I think this Precision Target Air Pistol should be near perfect!
Realism: The Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is designed after the Sig Sauer P210 9mm Pistol with some liberties taken to accommodate the single-stroke pneumatic internal pump and reservoir. For this reason it is not exactly a 1 to 1 scale replica of the Sig Sauer P210 but it is fully Sig Sauer licensed and looks close enough for what it is at the end of the day.
Pros:
Pretty much all metal and wood construction.
Fully adjustable rear sight as you would expect from a precision target pistol like this one.
Light 18 pound single-stroke cocking effect.
Sig Sauer Lisenced.
Made in Italy.
Comes in a nice hard shell Sig branded case.
Single action trigger is fully adjustable and feels amazing.
Claimed fps of 350 felt to me to be conservative, maybe we will see a little bit more out of the ASP Super Target?
Ambidextrous design suitable for left and right handers.
Cons:
A bit on the expensive side so it may be out of budget for some.
Not a true replica which is kind of expected as this is not a CO2 based airgun.
I found loading pellets in the barrel a bit tuff as it is recessed and harder for large fingers to access but loading got better as I used it.
Comments:
The Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is not going to be for everyone as it is on the high end and out of the price range of most. If you do have the budget for a high quality Precision Target Air Pistol and you are wanting it to look more like a traditional Real Steel Gun rather than an Air Target Pistol, then The Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is probably the most authentic looking option out there. I am really hoping it performs amazing during my Field Test Shooting Review so we can all justify the kind of up there price point.
My Table Top Review of the Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol:
I have two new products from Sig Sauer Airgun devision to share with everyone here on the channel. They are both really different but I really like them both. Before I get into it I want to thank Sig Sauer for sending me both of these Airguns.
First up is the Sig Sauer MCX Virtus .22 Caliber PCP Air Rifle I showed y at SHOT Show this year. Well now it’s shipping and I have one :) At this time the only version of the Sig Sauer MCX Virtus .22 Caliber PCP Air Rifle is the 700 fps 12 not popguns version. This version is legal in Canada but you will need an unrestricted Firearms License since it falls under the definition of a non-centered fired long gun in the Canadian Firearms Act. Perhaps Sig Sauer will come out with a detuned version under 500 fps?
The Sig Sauer MCX Virtus .22 Caliber PCP Air Rifle uses a 13CI-3000PSI tank situated at the rear of the gun as part of the butt stock. You will need some sort of a pump or scuba pressurization system to refill the PCP tank which will get you up to 150 to 200 shots per fill up. The belt fed magazine holds 30 rounds which you can fire as fast as you can pull the semi auto trigger. By the way the trigger pull indexes the belt magazine while the PCP air pressure works the bolt allowing for a fairly smooth trigger pull. You will need to charge the Sig Sauer MCX Virtus .22 Caliber PCP Air Rifle before you start shooting.
The Sig Sauer MCX Virtus .22 Caliber PCP Air Rifle weighs in at 7.5 pounds, has a 17.5 inch barrel and a total length of 37.5 inches.
Next I show off the Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pneumatic Precision Air Pistol modlelded after the Sig Sauer P210 Hadn't gun. The Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pneumatic Precision Pistol only requires 1 pump to get up to full FPS which is claimed bu Sig Sauer to be around 350 fps. I have a feeling that maybe it will shoot just a little bit faster based on my trial test shots. The Sig Sauer ASP Super Target .177 Caliber Pneumatic Precision Pistol has a full adjustable rear sight with a three stage single action trigger. Out of the box or should I say hard shell case the trigger feels really great. As expected with such a high end Match Grade Target Air Pistol you get real wood grips.
Stay posted for my Full Table Top and Field Test Shooting videos for both of these fine Sig Sauer Airguns.
Make sure to watch my Table Top Video Review for the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol if you’re interested in information about the specifications and some close up detailed video of the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol.
In this Field Test Shooting video I perform two main Airgun tests using the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol. The Chronograph Test to find out what the actual real world velocity is using a brand new CO2 along with 5.1 grain 4.5mm high quality Steel BB’s. And secondly I perform an Accuracy Test where I shoot 10 rounds at a paper target setup 30 feet away while using a rested seated position to take out as much human factor as possible. By the way the temperature on this day in the Sea Can Indoor Airgun Shooting Range was 24 degrees Celsius or 75 degrees Fahrenheit.
Starting with the Chronograph Test, I shot 5 rounds with the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol through my Chronograph and averaged 287 fps with the fastest being 297 fps and the lowest being 276 fps. This was pretty close to Sig Sauers 295 maximum fps claim and right in line for a super short barrelled blowback BB pistol.
So how did the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol do in terms of accuracy? Well not bad. I was able to get around a 2.5 inch 10 shot grouping with all but one shot hitting within 2 inches of each other. I did find the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol shot a little bit low at 30 feet but not a crazy amount. In terms of windage it was well centered, maybe just a hair to the right.
Overall the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is a nice shooter, it has a very fast and snappy blowback action and makes a kind of popping sound that’s is louder than I expected. The SAO trigger when using good quality smooth 4.5mm Steel BB’s was decent allowing me to concentrate on my shooting rather than struggle with the trigger. All in all I really love this little Air Pistol, Sig Sauer did a great job bringing it to market and getting as much into the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol as they could considering it’s super compact size.
Type: Air Pistol.
Manufacturer: Sig Sauer ASP
Model: Sig Sauer P365.
Materials: Metal and polymer build.
Weight: .8 pounds (363 Grams).
Barrel: 3.2 inches - smooth bore.
Propulsion: 12 gram CO2.
Action: Blowback singe action only.
Ammunition Type: 4.5mm steel BB’s.
Ammunition Capacity: 12 round full size drop out magazine.
Max FPS: 295.
Trigger Pull: The trigger on the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is a single action only trigger so you will need to rack the slide to cock the trigger and internal striker, after which the blowback operation will do this for you. When the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is unloaded the trigger pull length is short and the trigger weight is fairly light. That said when you load the full size drop out magazine with steel 4.5mm BB’s, the trigger pull weight increases significantly. This is because the inner barrel comes back and into the magazine when the trigger is pulled allowing for a better seal between the barrel and magazine which increases power and CO2 efficiency. The drawback to this is more friction on the trigger when you pull it with a loaded magazine.
Accuracy: Since I have not done my Field Test Shooting Review for the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol, I can not comment fully on how the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol will perform in terms of accuracy and power. I did have the chance to shoot off a couple magazines worth of ammo in the yard shooting at some pop cans around 30 feet away and the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol seemed to hit them most often then not. I was a bit surprised by the snappy blowback and loud pop the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol made and will not be surprised if it is able to hit the claimed 295 fps velocity using a brand new CO2.
Build Quality: The Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol has a metal and plastic (polymer) build, the slide is metal along with part of the full size magazine and I am sure several inner parts will also be metal. The frame along with section of the magazine are plastic. It’s kind of hard to tell if the trigger, safeties, slide catch and take down leavers are metal but I believe they are with the magazine release being plastic. The Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is not the heaviest Airgun coming in at about .8 pounds but for its size it feels good. Fit and finishes are also good.
Realism: The Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is a replica of the real steel Sig Sauer P365 which is a 9mm striker fired everyday cary compact pistol. It looks and feels the part with most external mechanical working parts mimicking the real steel version well enough. I was not able to easily field strip the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol since the takedown leaver seems to be only for show. One main difference between the CO2 Airgun and Real Steel version of the Sig Sauer P365 is the use of polymer in the frame for the Airgun version while the real steel Sig Sauer P365 has a metal frame. I imagine this is because 9mm rounds pack some punch and a small polymer frame may not have been up to the job. not something to be concerned with in a CO2 version of the same pistol.
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Pros:
One of the smallest CO2 BB Airgun on the market and somehow Sig managed to get a full size drop out magazine in it?
Good overall replica of the real steel P365 Sig Sauer pistol in terms of looks and operation.
Full Sig Sauer markings and licensing.
Working ambidextrous safeties and slide catch release (locks back after last shot).
Snappy blowback feel.
White and green dot sights front and back.
Rail for accessories (Maybe).
Recessed barrel opening and open ejection port for added realism.
Warning instructions are super discreet!
Cons:
SAO trigger gets a bit harder to pull when loaded up with BB’s.
Has a polymer frame as compared to the metal frame on the real steel version.
Not easily field strippable..
Comments:
The Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol was a real show stopper at this years SHOT Show, I was amazed that Sig Sauer was able to actually figure out a way to fit a full size drop out magazine that holds both the CO2 and 12 steel BB’s in such a compact Airgun. The Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is even small than the Walther PPK in many ways so great work by Sig in figuring out how to engineer their new Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol. I also think the the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol is a great replica of the real steel version in looks, feel and function which is what we are all looking for when considering buying a new CO2 replica Air Pistol. My initial test shots went well and make me feel optimistic about how the Field Test Shooting Video will go when I make it shortly.
My Table Top Review of the Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol:
Again I have some new products to show everyone. Some we got a bit of a preview of when I was at SHOT Show 2019 earlier this year but now I have them in my hands to show off and of course will be doing full Table Top and Filed Test for anything new as soon as I can get to them.
Starting with Sig Sauer, they sent me their brand new Sig Sauer P365 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol. This was probably one of my favorite new Air Pistols at SHOT Show simply because it is so small and somehow Sig was able to find a way to put a full size drop out metal magazine that holds both the CO2 and BB’s in it. This is one I am really looking forward to testing out in the Indoor Sea Can Airgun Shooting Range.
Another fantastic product is Crosman’s DPMS Full Auto CO2 BB Rifle which was pretty much perfect the first time around. Well at SHOT Show this year Crosman updated it a bit mainly with some cosmetic changes and now is offering the Crosman MPW, a slightly shorter version of the DPMS and now with an AR Compatible Stock for customizing your Crosman’s MPW Full Auto CO2 BB Rifle.
Yet one more item I was drooling over at SHOT Show 2019 where the Air Venturi Springfield Arms XDM Air Pistols being offered in GBB Airsoft and CO2 BB models along with 3.8 and 4.5 inch versions. It looks like the GBB Airsoft venisons where first out of the factory and I was able to get them in two styles, the Air Venturi Springfield Arms XDM 3.8 GBB Airsoft and Air Venturi Springfield Arms XDM 4.5 GBB Airsoft.
So maybe not as exciting… I also take a look at a NBB CO2 BB Makarov from KWC that is pretty basic but is much less expensive and will offer higher FPS and more shots per CO2 being that it is Non-blowback Airgun. It will be interesting to see how it compares performance wise to the KWC Full Blowback CO2 BB version.
Last but also super cool and I know it’s not really as Airgun related but still something I think everyone will be interested in is the Pocket Shot Pro Arrow Pouch with D-Loop. I reviewed the Pocket Shot “Slingshot” a while back, this new product allows you to use standard Arrows with their new Arrow Pouch getting around 40 pounds of pull and it comes with a trigger release. By the way the Pocket Shot Pro Arrow system is legals to hunt deer with in most US States, I’m not sure about Canada but perhaps here too?
The question comes up often about which Airgun to buy. Customers are wondering when they are looking at a specific Airgun and they see several similar products but from different companies, are they the same gun and if so which one should they decide to buy?
One of the biggest Airgun suppliers out there is for sure KWC, their BB and Airsoft guns are redistributed through companies like Umarex, Crosman, Sig Sauer, ASG, Gletcher and more. Often times the companies that redistribute KWC Airguns hold licensing agreements with real gun manufacturers like Smith & Wesson, Glock, Colt, Beretta, Sig Sauer, Taurus to name a few… KWC makes the Airguns in their Taiwanese factory but they are not allowed to put a real gun manufacturer license on the Airguns they distribute directly so KWC distributed Airguns will generally be all black.
I have also seen companies like Umarex distribute a new KWC Airgun that I have not seen yet from KWC, I believe KWC works with these big name Airgun companies directly and will build a new gun or variation of an existing KWC Airgun for them and give that Company an exclusive for a period of time. KWC will eventually regain the rights to sell that Airgun model directly after 6 months to a year.
Now that you know a little bit more on how it all works let’s get back to whether you should buy a KWC branded Airgun or other Brands same Airgun. It really comes down to I would say three factors. Do you want a Licensed version of the Airgun you are buying? Is there a price difference? Which gun is available to buy when I am ready to buy?
When you buy the Licensed version of the KWC Airgun redistributed through a third part Airgun Company you will often get a lot more writing on the Airgun than just the Gun Manufacturers name. Warning information comes to mind and does not look all that attractive on the slide where it is usually found in bright white lettering. If you like a cleaner look and don’t mind the lack of licensing then the KWC distributed version will generally be all back, nice and clean looking.
You would think buying the KWC Version that is sold more directly to the end customer would be the less expensive of the options because less hands are involved in the selling process. This is not always true, it is more about supply and demand, if more people want the cleaner looking KWC version but it’s harder to get ahold of than the price of the KWC version may actually be higher than say the Umarex or Crosman version. So shop around if price is the deciding factor as the guns are going to be mechanically the same with just some slight cosmetic differences between them.
Lastly, availability maybe what eventually leads you to buy a KWC version over an Umarex, or Crosman or Sig version since if the gun is not in stock well you may have limited options and so the one in stock is going to be perhaps your only option! Don’t feel like you got short changed, again these guns are virtually all the same at the end of the day no matter if you buy it from KWC, Umarex, Crosman, Sig Sauer, ASG, Gletcher or whomever.
Here we go, the first SHOT Show Interview for 2019 and why not kick things off with Sig Sauer. After all Sig Sauer has been super dedicated to bringing new Airgun designs to the airgun community year after year and this year at SHOT Show was no exception!
My favorite item from Sig Sauer this year at SHOT Show was the Sig Sauer P365 ASP, as the name suggests it is based on their 9mm firing real steel Sig Sauer P365 and somehow similar to how they fit 10 rounds of 9mm ammo into such a compact magazine and gun, the BB version also manages to jam a 12 gram CO2 cartridge into a very tiny drop out metal magazine! Really looking forward to getting my hands on this one!
Sig Sauer launched several Airsoft guns, an AEG Airsoft Rifle called the MCX Virtus and two GBB Airsoft Pistols, the M17 and P226. All of them fully licensed and also should be Canada import ready.
Last up but something that we have all been waiting for in an ASP Pellet firing rifle, the Virtus 22 Caliber PCP Rifle. Well the name says it all. It’s basically an MCX Pellet Rifle but now in 22 caliber and with a PCP tank built into the rear stock. In Canada you will need a PAL to buy one but import into Canada should not be a problem for license holders since the 22 Virtus PCP will quality as a long gun.
If you haven’t already, make sure to watch my Table Top Review for the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol where I talk about the features and specifications of the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol and show it up nice and close.
What we also like to know about most of the airguns I get my hands on is how do they perform in the real world? Do they get close to the claimed fps? Will the shoot a nice tight grouping on target? How does the blowback operation and the trigger feel?
Well that’s what this Field Test Shooting video for the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is all about so let’s get started.
First I like to perform my Chronograph “Power” test where I shoot 5 pellets through my chronograph using a brand new CO2 of course. Since Sig Sauer sent me a tin of their Sig Sauer Match Pb Precision Wadcutter Lead Pellets, I figured I would use them with my Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol. These pellets are 8.18 grain so not the lower weight Alloy pellets most companies use to get their higher fps rating that you usually see on the box. In other words I was not expecting to get the claimed 430 fps since that would be using a much lighter Alloy pellets that would weigh at least 3 grain lighter than the pellets I was using during this FPS test. All of that to tell you I got an average of 280 fps using the 8.18 grain lead pellets. And if you where wondering the temperature in my Sea Can Indoor Airgun Range was about 17-18 degrees Celsius (about 62 degrees Fahrenheit).
Next I performed my accuracy test with the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol, after all what good is power if you can’t hit the broad side of a barn? I setup my fresh paper target 30 feet down range and got into my usual shooting position which is me sitting on a stool in the back with my hands rested on a sand bag up front. This setup works pretty good for me helping to stabilize my hands as much as possible but there will be some human factor involved since well… I am only human! Out of the 10 rounds shot on target, 9 of them shot within about 1.75 inches of each other. The 10th outlier shot did make the group larger, more like 2.5 inches but again that could of been me and my old shaky hands?
My Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol did shoot fairly low hitting the outer bottom rings but it did shoot very well side to side. At 30 feet from your target you will have to aim a little bit over your desired aim point to shot bullseyes and unfortunately you can not adjust for this with the sights since they are non-adjustable.
The Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is an awesome CO2 Blowback Pellet Action Replica Pistol and the best one yet from Sig Sauer. It has great blowback operation and feel, a very nice trigger, that 20 round high capacity belt magazine and it shoots good on top of all that. If you’re a Sig fan like me then you will have to get the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol and add it to your collection for sure!
In this Evolution of the Sig Sauer ASP Pellet Pistols YouTube Video I show you Sig Sauer’s full lineup of ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistols and talk about how Sig Sauer has consistently improved their ASP Airgun designs to make their ASP Pellet Pistol the new standard for other airgun companies to follow.
Sig Sauer introduced and started shipping their Sig Sauer APS P250 and P226 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistols in 2015. Both of these Pellet firing Air Pistols used a similar styled double sided rotary magazine as the Umarex PX4 which is common in many blowback pellet Airguns today. The Sig Sauer ASP P226 did include a new lever styled CO2 piercing system that did not require manual tab based tightening of the CO2. Both the Sig Sauer APS P250 and P226 included full Sig Licensing and one to one scale accuracy in a very high quality build.
In 2017 Sig Sauer introduced the Sig Sauer ASP P320 which included their first Belt Fed Rotary Magazine similar to the Belt Fed Rotary Magazines in their ASP Rifle line. The Sig Sauer ASP P320 stick styled belt magazine held a whopping 30 rounds!
In the spring of 2018 Sig started shipping their Sig Sauer ASP X-Five which featured a Belt Fed Rotary Magazine along with Sig’s Lever CO2 Loading System. The Sig Sauer ASP X-Five is also one of the rare action shooting CO2 blowback Airguns with a fully adjustable rear sight.
In the Fall of 2018 Sig brought out their latest ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Air Pistol, the Sig Sauer ASP M17. The Sig Sauer ASP M17 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol nailed everything us Airgun enthusiast are looking for in an Airgun which can be hard to achieve when pellets are involved! The Sig Sauer ASP M17 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol not only featured a Belt Fed Rotary Magazine and Lever Style CO2 System but put all of this into a full size drop out magazine. The Sig Sauer ASP M17 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol brought even more features we where looking for like a Cut Out Ejection Port, Recessed Barrel Opening and the ability to be Filed Striped for easy access to a removable barrel just incase a pellet managed to get jammed.
So as you can see Sig Sauer is pushing the boundaries of Airgun Designs and always trying to make even better and better products to bring to us each year. I look forward to seeing What Sig Sauer is going to show me this year at SHOT Show 2019!
Type: Air Pistol.
Manufacturer: Sig Sauer ASP
Model: Sig Sauer ASP M17.
Materials: Metal and plastic build.
Weight: 2.21 pounds (1002 Grams).
Barrel: 4.6 inches - Rifled steel.
Propulsion: 12 gram CO2.
Action: Blowback double action only.
Ammunition Type: .177 caliber pellets.
Ammunition Capacity: 20 round belt fed magazine.
Max FPS: 430.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is actually very good considering the trigger not only cocks the hammer with each shot but it also has to index the 20 round belt fed magazine. All of this is done only using around 6 pounds of trigger pull. You will find the trigger pull to be a bit long because of this but overall it feels pretty good and will allow for fairly fast rapid fire action shooting.
Accuracy: So far I have not done my official Field Test Shooting Video for the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol but plan on making it shortly. I did hover get a chance to load some CO2 and Sig Sauer Led Pellets into my Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol and so far fired two fully loaded magazines which is 40 rounds. So far so good, no misfires or jams and power can accuracy seemed nice and consistent. The blowback action is scrips and snappy!
Build Quality: As with all the Sig Sauer ASP Airguns, the qualify is very good. Sig does not actually make these guns but has full control over the design and manufacturing of them. The actual airguns are made in Japan for Sig Sauer but this OK since Sig is not really an Airgun manufacturer and so levying that part to a company that is is not a bad idea. The fit and finish on the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is top notch. There is lots of metal in the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol similar to where you would find it in the real steel version.
Realism: The Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is a very close replica of the real steel Sig Sauer M17. Even the slight difference in color between the slide and frame has been recreated on the Airgun version as compared to the real steel Military version. Sig has made this new ASP Airgun even more realistic by giving it an open ejection port, a recessed barrel, a full size drop out magazine that holds the CO2 and belt magazine, and Sig even made the M17 ASP field strippable!
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Pros:
Very good overall replica of the real steel Sig Sauer M17.
Designed by Sig and made in Japan, fully Sig Sauer licensed.
Has nice heavy blowback operation.
Has accurate weight to it at just over 2 pounds, will be similar to a loaded real steel M17.
White dot sights and accessory rail.
High capacity 20 round belt feed magazine that fits into the full size drop out magazine.
Easy loading CO2 with Sigs lever system, CO2 also combined with the full size drop out magazine.
Decent feel to the trigger not heavy or as sticky even though the trigger action rotates the 20 round belt fed magazine.
First Sig Sauer ASP pistol that is Field Strippable.
Open ejection port and reassessed barrel that help with believability.
Cons:
Slide does not lock back after last shot.
Sights are non adjustable.
Only magazine option is the longer high capacity magazine that does extend the pistol grip.
Comments:
I really like what Sig Sauer is doing for airgun community. What I mean by this is that rather than simply slapping their License on an already existing airgun like many other companies tend to do, Sig instead has decided to create something new and fresh. Sig Sauer has in brought new advancements and deigns to their APS Airgun line that nobody els so far has been able to do and with each new ASP Airgun Sig Sauer has improved upon their designs always staving to be better than the previous version. That’s exactly what the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is to me, Sigs best ASP Air Pistol to date!
My Table Top Review of the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol:
In this December Update Video I wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. If you have other beliefs and perhaps don’t celebrate Christmas in the traditional Canadian fashion then I wish you a Happy Holiday!
I received a number of products lately and really don’t have time to do full reviews of them as the Holliday season is on us which is going to limit how many videos I can pump out over the next couple of weeks so hopefully this Update video will keep everyone excited about the future Replace Airgun Videos.
Here are the items I talk about in this December 2018 Update Video:
Sig Sauer ASP M17 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol
Sig Sauer Fake Suppressor for P226 ASP Pellet Pistol
Umarex Steel Strike Full Auto BB Rifle
ROHM RG-89 .380 Caliber Blank Revolver
Umarex Legends WildCard Airsoft SAA Revolver
Umarex WW2 Limited Edition P08 CO2 Blowback BB Pistol
Umarex WW2 Limited Edition M712 Full Auto CO2 Blowback BB Pistol
Webley Mark VI CO2 Pellet Revolver
John Wayne Signature SAA Revolver Solid Maple Wood Case
The Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is Sigs latest ASP (Advanced Sport Pellet) air pistol and like the Sig Sauer APS P320 has a high capacity bet fed magazine along with an easy load CO2 system. So who did the Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol perform compared to my preview testing of the Sig Sauer P320 ASP?
For my velocity testing I placed 5 rounds through my Chrony Chronograph using a brand new Sig Sauer CO2 along with Sigs Match Ballistic Alloy 5.25 grain pellets. This was the same setup when I performed the Sig Sauer ASP P320 testing. The Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol shot an average of 359 fps which was lower than my testing of the Sig Sauer ASP P320 as it shot an average of 413 fps. I am not sure why there was such a difference since both guns use similar internal mechanics but I have a feeling the CO2 may not have been pierced fully since some of the shots seemed to be weaker than others and CO2 output did not seem consistent even causing the blowback action to not fully cycle on a couple of shots.
Moving onto accuracy, my Sig Sauer ASP P320 shooting an 8 round group got around a 2 inch spread. I was able to get a tighter 1.5 inch grouping with my Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol and this was with 10 shots rather than 8 so the Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol may have shot a bit slower but it did seem to be a little bit tighter in terms of accuracy. The Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol was shooting a bit low and to the left for me in my accuracy testing but the rear sight is fully adjustable for windage and elevation so this can be easily corrected.
I strongly feel something did not go right when the CO2 was pierced using Sigs proprietary Cantilever Easy CO2 Loading system. There is only one way to do it so I know it was not human error in this case. perhaps the Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol needs a little bit of break in time is all?
Overall the Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is a really well made and fun gun gun to shoot. I love the high capacity belt fed magazine with is not heavy on the trigger at all like some other guns. The fully adjustable rear sight is something you don't often see on CO2 blowback action shooters so hopefully this is a new trend?
You may remember back at SHOT Show this year I showed everyone some new products from Sig Sauer, well two of those pistols showed up for me to review so why not start off with an Unboxing before I get into the full Table Top and Shooting reviews.
The two pistols I received from Sig are the Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 B blowback Pellet Pistol and the We the People 1911 Co2 Blowback BB Pistol. Sig was also kind enough to send me out some of their 12 gram CO2 and Match Ballistic Alloy Pellets to use with these Airguns.
Here are some of the basic specifications for both of theses fine Airguns...
Sig Sauer X-Five ASP CO2 B blowback Pellet Pistol:
Distributer: SIG Sauer
Caliber: .177 cal. Pellets
Velocity: 430 fps
Action: Semi automatic Blowback SAO
Barrel Style: Rifled
Gun Weight: 2.7 Pounds
Overall Length: 8.7 Inches
Barrel Length: 5 Inches
Magazine Capacity: 20 Rounds
Mechanism: CO2 12 Gram
Trigger Pull: 5.5 Pounds
We the People 1911 Co2 Blowback BB Pistol:
Distributer: SIG Sauer
Caliber: .4.5mm Steel BB
Velocity: 340 fps
Action: Semi automatic Blowback SAO
Barrel Style: Smooth bore
Gun Weight: 2.2 Inches
Overall Length: 8.5 inches
Barrel Length: 4.5 Inches
Magazine Capacity: 17 Rounds
Mechanism: CO2 12 Gram
Watch my full Unboxing Video for the Sig Sauer X-Five ASP and We the People 1911 Airguns:
The Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol is a really nice evolution to the already existing line of Sig Sauer ASP Pellet Pistols. The 30 round belt fed pellet magazine is what really sets it apart from the Sig ASP P250 and Sig ASP P226 which both share the traditional double sided 8 round rotary pellet magazines found in other CO2 pellet pistols like the Umarex PX4 and ASG CZ P-09 Duty.
The big question I had was how is the trigger going to feel and is a 30 round belt magazine going to be reliable? Will other aspects of the Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol function and perform like its rotary magazine brothers?
So I figured I would put the Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol up against both the Sig ASP P250 and P226 and see how they all faired against each other.
During my Chronograph feet per second shooting test I compared all three blowback pellet pistols shooting five rounds from each of them using a brand new CO2 and Sig Sauer 5.25 grain Match Ballistic Alloy Pellets. It was a close race with the Sig ASP P250 averaging 413 fps, the Sig ASP P226 just under with a 409 fps average and the Sig ASP P320 coming in a very close third at 405 fps. Only about 8 fps separating all of them!
Moving on to the target portion of my testing. As per my standard Field Test Shooting Reviews I setup my paper targets about 30 feet from my rested shooting position and since the ASP P250 and P226 both have 8 rounds per side rotary magazines I decided to shoot an 8 round grouping with all three Sig ASP pellet pistols. It was really close and perhaps one could say most of the variability was because of the human factor. All three CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistols shot about 2 inch groupings with perhaps one or two outliers, again most likely my fault :) I would say the Sig Sauer ASP P250 was perhaps the most accurate with the tightest of the three groups and also the most centered. The Sig Sauer ASP P226 and Sig Sauer ASP P320 where both a close second with both of them shooting just a tad left on target but pretty close to the center.
What about that Sig Sauer ASP P320 CO2 Blowback .177 Caliber Pellet Pistol trigger and belt fed magazine? The trigger actually felt great, much lighter than I was expecting and I did not have one pellet feed error during my entire testing. At the end of the day all three Sig ASP pellet guns performed about the same, but I have to say having 30 rounds at your disposal without having to reload or rotate the stick mag really makes the Sig ASP P320 stand out and perhaps make it the winner in a very close contest.
