In this Update Preview Video I take a look at three CO2 Air Pistols from ASG, Gamo and Barra. All shoot 4.5mm steel BB’s and one can also shoot .177 caliber pellets. two of them have blowback action. Two are also styled after the popular 1911 Semi Auto Pistol. The ASG 1911 has a unique magazine and chambering system that is the first I have seen of this in a Blowback Airgun. It offers with blowback operation along higher fps and a nice light semi auto trigger, which is a combination not offered in many Airguns.
Airguns are generally cheaper to buy and for sure cheaper to shoot. Airguns can cost as little as $50-100 to buy while real guns in similar models will cost many time more. Cost of ammo is so much less expensive than Real Gun ammo by a mile!
Difficulty to Obtain:
Airguns in most countries do not require any licensing or registration. Generally there are more available options in Airgun choices than Real Gun choices as restrictions often prohibit many Real Guns to be obtained.
Places to Shoot:
Unless you live in a super remote locations and your laws allow you to shoot Real Guns in those locations, then in most cases you can shoot an Airgun almost anywhere within reason. You can even shoot certain Airgun models in your basement. Airsoft is a great option for indoor shooting as the plastic ammo does not carry very much energy so with minimal effort you can make a backstop that will trap the ammo very well.
Trigger Time:
Because ammo is much less expensive and places you can shoot are easier to find, you can get a lot more Trigger Time under your belt which will also improve your shotgun with Real Guns and after all it’s just fun to shoot guns even if they are Airguns.
Safety:
I am not talking about safety in terms of protection. I am talking about safety as in if you do something stupid and your Gun goes off accidentally. If you accidentally fire your Airgun indoors, the bullet will not travel through floors or walls and potentially harm or kill someone on the other side. If you do manage to shoot yourself with an Airgun, the consequence are much less severe than shooting yourself with a Real Gun. That said, always treat an Airgun as if it was a Real Loaded Gun, as server injury and even death can occur even with an Airgun.
Ware Games and Training Situations:
There is no way you can use a standard Real Gun to shoot at people, unless extensively altered with special parts that make the Real Gun unusable to shoot live ammo. With Airguns you have the choice of using an Airsoft or Paintball gun that are both designed specifically for this purpose.
Pest Control:
If you have the need for pest control in an urban area where you do not want a stray bullet to travel too far or penetrate buildings if a shot where to go awry, then an Airgun designed for accuracy and power may be perfect for the job. Accuracy with target and hunting Airguns is on par if not better than many Real Guns and are have powerful enough to kill a pest humanely without having too much power for the job and having to worry as much about your background.
Prop Guns:
As mentioned already, Airguns can look a lot like Real Guns, so they are perfect to be used as a stand-in or Prop Gun when you need to simulate the look and function of a Real Gun. Again they are easier and cheaper to obtain and if something does go wrong, the consequences are much less severe.
Social Stigma:
Unfortunately Real Guns and perhaps any gun these days are looked upon with a social stigma as being the cause of the Crime rather than a tool used in a Crime. And so people blame Guns for these crimes rather than the people committing these crimes. If a person is motivated enough to do something bad, they are going to do it either way and will use whatever means is available to them to commit these Crimes. Including other means like: Knives, Blunt Objects, Poisons, Vehicles, Explosives… Sad but true! Airguns are not used in homicides or mass shootings as they are completely underpowered for a crime like this. They can however be used in crimes as a show of threat, as they do look a lot like real guns, generally people that use Airguns for real crimes, if challenged will give up immediately as they are completely outgunned. Don’t bring an Airgun to a Real Gun fight, you have better chance with a knife!
In this Comparison Video I show several models of Glock Replica Airguns distributed under the Umarex/Glock license. Umarex has brought to market several Glock Replica Airguns to date including BB, Pellet, Airsoft and even Paintball versions in a variety of models. I showcase only a few of these models in this video but it is a good selection to give most people an idea of what is available from our Replica Airguns website in terms of Glock Pistols.
I have made a fair amount of video reviews for the Dan Wesson Line of AIrguns that encompass Table Top and Field Test Reviews on several versions of the Dan Wesson line: BB, Pellet, Airsoft, in a variety of barrel and color choices. It has been a while, so why not make another Review Video to revisit the Dan Wesson Line and so this time here we have the Steel BB version in a 2.5 inch barrel length. As always I will test they CO2 Revolver to find out what the velocity is and how accurate it is shooting at a paper target. Also make sure to watch my Table Top Video for specifications, details and closeup video.
Here we go with the Velocity test! I placed a brand new CO2 in the ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold CO2 BB Revolver and shot a cylinder full of 4.5mm steel BB’s that weigh 5.1 grain through my Chronograph. The temperature was average so about room temperature. Only the last 4 of my shots registered on my Chronograph as it was acting up a bit on me at first two shots but I did manage to average 332 fps with the last four. The first two shots would have been a little bit faster had they registered on my chronograph so this may have brought up the average a bit to say around 334…
I then placed a fresh paper target 30 feet down range and proceeded to unload a full 6 round cylinder into it, I was shooting in single action with the hammer cocked back between shots. I was also using a semi rested shooting position with my hands resting on a sand bag up front and seated in the back for stability. Generally speaking even with Steel BB’s I can get close to a 1-2 inch grouping with hess Dan Wessons but this time my 6 shot grouping only produced a 3 inch group? It was probably me as there is always some human error involved and each test can result in different results so keep that in mind. The grouping was well centered out of the box but the ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold CO2 BB Revolver does have fully adjustable sights in case yours is a bit off.
It never get’s old loading up the shells with ammo and placing them in the cylinder followed by either quick action shooting or more relaxed and accurate single action shooting, then repeating again and again… The original Dan Wesson line of revelers has been around for a long time now and if I am not mistaken was the first Airgun revolver to use reloadable shells. We now have more refined 715 version of the Dan Wesson which does have some improvement but the original versions still hold strong and are very capable and fun shell loading revolvers that come it a bit lower price tag then the newer 715 versions so no matter which version you get you will have lot of fun shooting and reloading these enjoyable Airguns!
I First off this Field Test Shooting Video Review for the Umarex HK P30 AEG Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is going to be more like reviewing a NERF gun, well at least in terms of performance. I do however test it out just like I test all Airsoft Pistols by shooting 5 rounds through the Chronograph to see what the average velocity is in fps. Then I shoot some rounds at a paper target setup 30 feet downrange to see how accurate the Umarex HK P30 AEG Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is. If you want more specification and details along with some nice close up video of the Umarex HK P30, then checkout my Table Top Video for it.
OK, so starting with velocity, I have to say it shot well below the claimed 180fps on the clamshell packaging, keep in mind this is for .12 gram Airsoft BB’s and I was using .20 gram Airsoft BB’s so almost twice as heavy which should mean about half the speed and that’s about what I got. I was able to get an average fps of 95 with my slowest shot hitting 94 fps and my fastest shot hitting 96 fps so very consistently slow :)
What about accuracy? Could the mighty Umarex HK P30 AEG Full Auto Airsoft Pistol at least redeem itself here… Well not really! It was hard to fully determine exactly where my shots where hitting the paper target as it seems 95 fps is not powerful enough to even penetrate the paper. All I could do was put little dings in the paper which are bit hard to make out. My best guess is I should be able to hit a standard sheet of paper at 30 feet away once I figure out where the center point is. I was shooting at the bullseye and hit most shots rather low on the target with several of them being too low to get on the paper. In full auto things did not get much better, but full auto with this little pea shooter is kind of fun, so just keep the selector on full auto all the time… I would!
Getting back to the Umarex HK P30 AEG Full Auto Airsoft Pistol being more like a NERF gun, I say this because it is way too underpowered to use in any Airsoft wars as people probably won’t even know they got hit! But perhaps it is just perfect for indoor NERF type shootouts? I can’t see the Umarex HK P30 doing any type of damage to your surroundings or to yourself but always make sure to wear eye protection when shooting as even an eye lash can feel like murder in the eye let alone a 6mm Airsoft BB. The only real downside I can see to using the Umarex HK P30 AEG Full Auto Airsoft Pistol indoors like a NERF gun would be the cleanup of all the microscopic Airsoft BB’s, you will probably be finding them under furniture and in crazy spots for months afterwards. All in all, the Umarex HK P30 AEG Full Auto Airsoft Pistol may just be perfect for some indoor fun on those rainy days!
The KJ Works KP-13 CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol does look a bit like a Glock but don’t be fooled, it is fore sure not a Glock at all. That said it might just make a great training Airsoft pistol if you own a real steel Glock or plan on owning one in the future as it is about the same size and shape and operates similarly to a real Glock. In this video I put it through its paces using my Chronograph to find out the real world velocity and I also place 10 shots on a paper target to see what kind of accuracy I can get from 30 feet away.
Starting with my power or velocity test I put 5 rounds through my Chronograph using standard .20 gram Airsoft Plastic BB’s. I was using a brand new CO2 and the temperature being around 21 degrees Celsius or 70 degrees Fahrenheit, so not too hot or cold. I did only test using the preinstalled internal non-extended barrel so if you do plan on using the longer extend barrel that the KJ Works KP-13 CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol comes with, you will more than likely get another 30-40 fps out of this Airsoft Pistol. That said I was able to get an average of 348 fps with my slowest shoot hitting 329 fps and my fastest shot hitting 363 fps. As expected the fastest shot was my first shot out of the Airsoft gun and my slowest shot was my last as the Airgun cooled down.
I then moved on to my accuracy portion of the Field Test for the KJ Works KP-13 CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol. It did shoot rather high so I did have to aim at the bottom ring of the target to actually hit closer to the middle. It also shot just a tad to the left but not much so keep that in mind since the sights are not easily adjustable. Hop-up adjustments may lower the rounds a bit but it’s hard to say how much. The KJ Works KP-13 CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol did get close to a 1 inch 9 shot grouping (first shot was really high aiming at the bullseye), so that was impressive and the blowback feels solid with a really nice Glock like short and easy trigger.
The KJ Works KP-13 CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol is a nice looking and good performing Airsoft Pistol that looks enough like a glock to perhaps appeal to Glock lovers looking for something similar but unique in its own way. After all doesn't everyone already have a Glock, so be a bit different and pick yourself up one of these KJ Works KP-13 CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistols and be a trend setter!
The Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is a looker for sure replicating the look of a Glock 17 Gen 5 which includes Umarex Glock licensing, lots of metal parts and solid blowback action. That’s all great but does it shoot good? In this Filed Test Shooting video for the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol I put it through its paces using my Chronograph to find out the real world velocity and I also place 10 shots on a paper target to see what kind of accuracy we can get from 30 feet away.
Starting with my power or velocity test I put 5 rounds through my Chronograph using lead pellets that where just over 7 gran. I was all using a brand new CO2 and the temperature being around 21 degrees Celsius or 70 degrees Fahrenheit, so not too hot or cold. Full disclaimer, I was having some feeding problems with the magazine at first but it did seem to sort itself out near the end of this review… All that said, I was able to get an average of 320 fps with my slowest shoot hitting 309 fps and my fastest shot hitting 327 fps, so pretty consistent overall.
I then moved on to my accuracy portion of the Field Test for the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol Luckily the pellet feeding and trigger seemed to work better for me during this portion of the test but the trigger pull was very unpredictable being super hard with some shots and rather easy for others. This is not ideal for getting a good accuracy result, but I did the best I could and surprisingly got around a 3 inch grouping with a very uncooperative trigger. My grouping did hit the target a little bit to the left but was well centered up and down.
I am not a fan of belt fed magazines over all even though Sig Sauer does seem to be able to pull them off better than anyone. Maybe Umarex needs to do a little bit more work here to get better trigger pull consistency and an overall lighter trigger pull. Maybe the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol needs a bit more break in time as it did seem to perform better near the end of my Field Test Review. I would also like to try adding some silicone lubrication ot the magazine as friction seems to be the enemy of belt fed magazines… I am not sure if the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is a big recommendation for me or not, but it is a really decent CO2 Airgun in many ways. If you're willing to take a bit of a chance that the trigger will improve over time and perhaps a bit of lube will improve things then checkout the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol in our Canada and US online Replica Airguns Stores.
Type: Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol. Manufacturer: Distributed by KJ Works. Model:KP-13. Materials: Metal & Polymer. Weight: 1.7 pounds (770 grams). Barrel: 3.7 inches (95mm) metal non-rifled. Propulsion: CO2 x 1. Action: Semi auto blowback, SOA trigger. Ammunition Type: .6mm plastic Airsoft BB’s. Ammunition Capacity: 24 round drop out full size metal magazine. FPS: Claimed 366+.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the KJ Works KP-13 CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol is what you would expect for a true Single Action Only Trigger which is nice and light. There is a bit of take up but you can feel the point near the back where the release kicks in which is extremely predictable with no play in it. Of course you will need to rack the slide in order to place a round in the breach and fire the first shot, after that the blowback action will do all the work for you.
Accuracy: At this point I have not shot the KJWorks KP-13 CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol or done my Field Test Performance Video. I would expect the KJWorks KP-13 to perform like the other KJWork Airsoft Pistols I have reviewed in the past, which generally hits the claimed fps. Keep in mind the claimed fps is with the extended barrel and I more than likely will be using the preinstalled shorter non extendable barrel which will have a slower fps for sure. Accuracy should be decent but we will find out when I make my Field Test Shooting video!
Build Quality: The KJWorks line of Airsoft Guns is know for overall good quality so I expect theKJ Works KP-13 CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol to be just the same. From my initial first impressions everything looks really good, fit and finish are excellent and as expected you will find metal parts and polymer parts in all the same places you would find them in a real steel modern semi auto pistol.
Realism: The KJ Works KP-13 CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol is not an exact replica of a specific semi auto pistol but yo could say it looks a little bit like a Glock ;) You need to be careful when it comes to Glock as they do not like it when companies copy their guns and rightly so. There is enough differences with the KJ Works KP-13 CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol so it should not set off any alarms over at Glock. I do like the two tone tan and black color scheme KJ Works went with for the KP-13 but if you like a more traditional look you can always go with the all black version.
Pros:
Metal and Polymer with decent weight and good feel to it.
Heavy Full blowback operation.
Excellent fit and finish as always with KJWorks pistols.
High capacity full size drop out metal magazine that holds the CO2 and 24 rounds.
Well hidden safety incorporated into the serial number under the barrel.
Working trigger safety.
Super easy to see in all conditions fiber optic sight up front.
All working components like a real steel Glock styled pistol.
Comes with extended barrel for higher velocity and easier import into Canada.
Would make a good training weapon if you are use to using Glocks.
Like the two tone finish, but can also get it in all black.
Easily field strip-able.
Cons:
Sights are not adjustable.
Would have liked the addition of white outline on the rear sight.
Slide spring could be slightly heavier.
Comments:
If you’re looking for a pistol that is similar to a Glock for training purposes but is unique in its own way and doesn’t have to be a Glock, then perhaps the KJ Works KP-13 CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol may be for you. I like the fact that it has its own style to it and is not just another Glock or Glock Copy. I also like that the KP-13 comes with a CO2 magazine rather than a Green Gas Magazine which will get you a bit higher velocity and more mag fills before requiring to gas up again. I personally like the two tone version but get what you like best, it’s good to have options!
Type: Blowback CO2 Pellet Pistol. Manufacturer: Distributed by Umarex. Model:Glock 17 Gen 5. Materials: Metal & Polymer. Weight: 1.6 pounds (725 grams). Barrel: 4.5 inches metal non-rifled. Propulsion: CO2 x 1. Action: Semi auto blowback, DOA trigger. Ammunition Type: .177 caliber pellets. Ammunition Capacity: 21 round drop out full size metal magazine. FPS: Claimed 370.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is what I would describe as closer to a DOA (Double Action Only) trigger. The blowback action does retract the internal hammer/striker which does relieve some of the trigger pull but the trigger is also used to rotate the belt magazine which gives the trigger a kind of friction feel especially right at the end of the pull where the rotation occurs. That said it is not a terrible trigger like some other belt fed Airguns but it is certainly nutlike a standard SAO type Glock trigger.
Accuracy: At this point I have not shot the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol so I can only quote what Umarex is saying in terms of FP2 which is 370. That sounds a bit high for a pellet Airgun but they may be claiming this velocity using a light weight pellets perhaps made out of an alloy rather than lead? I guess we will find out the real world fps using lead pellets and also how accurate it will be when I do my Full Field Test Shooting Video.
Build Quality: The Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol like most of the Umarex Glocks is very well made. I am thinking that Glock to allow Umarex to license Glock Pistols hammy have a quality control as part of this license agreement? Either way the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol is a solid and well built Airgun all around with quality material and very good fit and finish.
Realism: The Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol in terms of realism as compared to a real steel Glock 19 Gen 5 for sure hits the mark in most categories. It is a bit lighter and you can not field strip it easily, there is also the not so much recessed barrel that is a bit of a giveaway but in terms of most other attributes the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 replicates a real Glock… Including the basic looks and feel, the metal slide and polymer frame, the full size drop out metal magazine, the blowback action and most of the working parts including the slide catch release, magazine release and trigger safety.
Pros:
Good weight and feel to it, build quality and fit and finish seem very good.
Really nice looking and full featured replica of the original Glock 17 Gen 5.
Fully Glock licensed via Umarex.
Easy to see white dot sights front and back.
Working trigger safety.
Accessory rail for adding a laser or tactical light.
Full size drop out metal magazine that holds the CO2 and .177 caliber pellets.
Nice high 21 round capacity.
Slide spring feels nice and heavy provide a decent blowback recoil effect.
Safety built into the serial number plate area keeps it well hidden.
Can see through ejection port when magazine is out.
Warning instruction are nice and discreet under trigger guard.
370 claimed fps is good for a CO2 blowback pellet pistol.
Cons:
Barrel is not really all that recessed.
No way to easily field strip it.
Don’t like the clam shell packaging.
Trigger is a bit on the heavy side.
Comments:
I think many of us having been waiting for a pellet shooting version of the Glock from Umarex. I am a bit surprised they went with a belt fed version as belt fed magazines tend to be a bit on the heavy trigger pull side. Yes the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol has a stronger trigger pull as compared to a 4.5mm BB or 6mm Airsoft version of the same Umarex gun, as most of these Umarex based Glocks utilize a SAO trigger which is more comparable to a real steel Glock. On the plus side the Pellet version should be a bit more accurate, but we will see how this pans out when I do my comprehensive Field Test Shooting Video for the Umarex Glock 17 Gen 5 CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol.
Type: BB Revolvers. Manufacturer: ASG Model: Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold Materials: Mostly metal. Weight: 1.9 pounds. (862 grams) Barrel: Metal non-rifled. Propulsion: CO2 x 1. Action: Revolver, single and double action. Ammunition Type: 4.5mm Steel BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 6 rounds (removable shells). FPS: 327
Trigger Pull: The ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold CO2 BB Revolver shoots in true modern revolver style offering single and double action. The double action has a bit of friction to it since the cylinder is being rotate during the first part of the trigger pull and there is a spring fed metal gasket between the barrel and the cylinder that creates a seal but does add some resistance to the trigger pull in double action. Single action is much lighter as expected since pulling the hammer back turns the cylinder removing that friction point from the equasion.
.Accuracy: So far I have not done my Filed Test Shooting Video for the ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold CO2 BB Revolver, but I plan to in the near future as a revisit since I have made a lot of similar Field Test Videos for the Dan Wesson line of products in 4.5mm Steel BB and 6mm Airsoft, here is a link to me shooting the 8 inch a while back in my old setup. Wow, this one goes back to 2014 almost 10 years ago!
Build Quality: The ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold CO2 BB Revolver overall is really well built with good weight to it and a nice fit and finish, I do like the Gold version in this 2.5 inch version. It is almost all metal with the exception of the grips which are made of a semi hard plastic. One beef I have with the original ASG Dan Wesson line of revolvers are how the grips slide back to access the CO2, closing them can be a bit of a chore as they can come off their track super easily. The other complaint I hear about them is the play in the trigger and hammer side to side.
Realism: The ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold CO2 BB Revolver like all the other ASG Dan Wesson Revolvers is very realistic with its realistic pop out cylinder and 6 removable shells you can reuse and load up for numerous rounds of shooting. You can also buy additional shells and have them preloaded and ready to go in the Speed loader to speed things up. Two things about the ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold CO2 BB Revolver that take away a bit from the realism would be the non recessed barrel and the rather large space in front of the hammer. A real steel Dan Wesson or even most revolvers do not have this large space. I believe they did this to allow for the internal valve system. The newer Dan Wesson 715 however was designed with a smaller space in front of the hammer.
Pros:
It's a revolver with actual shells! Gives you the feeling of a real 6 shooter.
Almost all metal design with good weight and feel.
Lots of detail in this gun, very well made, fit and finish is very good.
Good power and good accuracy. (going off of already done older reviews)
Fully adjustable rear sight for windage and elevation.
Can add the included accessory rail for more options (optical or red dot sight…).
Dan Wesson licensed via ASG.
Gold finish is unique. (Gold is the Best!)
Moulded and textured pistol grips.
Grips fully hide CO2 screw.
Can shoot in both double and single action for action shooting or more accurate shot placement.
Cons:
Plastic CO2 screw tab.
Plastic grip setup can be a bit awkward to close.
2.5 inch does not have the recessed barrel.
Hammer and trigger are a bit sloppy compared to 715 version.
Comments:
It’s been a while since I reviewed one of the first generation ASG Dan Wesson Revolvers and the ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch Gold CO2 BB Revolver does bring back some memories for me going back almost a decade. If I’m not mistaken this revolver was the first one to implement actual removable and reloadable shells making Airgun Replica Revolvers a lot more interesting and realistic! I do kind of prefer the newer 715 version as they are even beefier than the original ASG Dan Wessons and ASG has fixed the sloppy hammer and trigger along with the space in front of the hammer has been reduce making the 715 even that much more realistic.
Watch my Vimeo Video Table Top Review for the Dan Wesson 2.5 Inch Gold BB Revolver:
Type: BB air pistol. Manufacturer: Umarex USA. Model: HK P30 Materials: All pastic outer shell. Weight: .5 pounds (227 grams) Barrel: Metal non-rifled 4.25 inches (106mm). Total Length: 7 inches (178mm) Propulsion: CO2 x 1. Action: Semi & full auto blowback, single action only. Ammunition Type: 6mm Plastic Airsoft BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 16 round plastic curved stick magazine x2. FPS: 180 Rate of fire: 200 shots/min.
Trigger Pull: The trigger on the Umarex HK P30 AEG Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is electric as it is an AEG Pistol that requires batteries to operate. The trigger is basically an ON/Off switch that activates the blowback which also seems to create the pressure to propel an Airsoft BB. Mind you not all that fast but fast enough for perhaps a more safe indoor/basement type Airsoft war? Getting back to the trigger pull I would say it is light but on the ing side for an AEG.
Accuracy: You will have to stay posted for my proper Field Test Shooting Video for the Umarex HK P30 AEG Full Auto Airsoft Pistol. That said I did pop off a magazine of BB’s (16 rounds), some in semi auto and some in full auto. Do not expect this Airsoft pistol to be all that powerful as it can barely penetrate a paper target. I was expecting the cycle rate of full auto to feel slower than it actually shot so that’s a good thing! I see this as almost an alternative to a nerf gun but using Airsoft BB’s. Do this at your own risk and please use proper eye protection. I can not comment too much on accuracy as I was just pointing and shooting to get a basic feel for the gun.
Build Quality: The Umarex HK P30 AEG Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is a low cost all plastic Airsoft pistol which kind of says it all. Being super light weight means if you drop it, chances are it will be fine because it is so light weight. Fit and finish are decent but without seeing what’s inside I can only guess at how long it will last.
Realism: The Umarex HK P30 AEG Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is a true licensed replica via Umarex. It is about the right shape and size as a real HK P30 and other than the orange tip could fool most people unless really close up to it and of course holding it. It also has a kind of out of place grip safety on the front which is not an HK attribute. Being an AEG with batteries in the grip there is no full size magazine and again as it is all plastic it does not have nearly the same weight as a real HK P30. The only working mechanical parts are essentially the trigger, grip safety and selector switch in the trigger area.
Available From: The Canada and US Replica Airgun Stores.
Pros:
Drop out stick mags are nice for continuous shooting without having to reload as often.
Has a rail for accessories.
Working slide with blowback action.
Shoots in both semi and full auto selectable.
No CO2 so perhaps better in colder weather being an AEG, lower cost to operate!
Walther licensing via Umarex.
Grip safety to help stop unwanted accidental shots.
Serial number on receiver.
Warning instructions are non-obtrusive.
Trigger is nice and light being an AEG.
Cons:
Is very light weight being almost all plastic.
Low claimed fps and slow full auto cycle rate.
Orange tip.
Sights are all black, harder to see on dark objects
Comments:
The Umarex HK P30 AEG Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is a rather different sort of beast! On one hand it is not what you would expect to see someone using in an Airsoft game but I really don’t think that’s what it is meant for anyway. It’s really just a fun gun for plinking without having to worry to much about safety as if you do something stupid, the consequences will not be too sever! I would say it could possibly be used as an alternate to using a Nerf gun for fun little backyard squishes or shooting indoors. The Umarex HK P30 AEG Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is not for everyone but I am guessing it could be a lot of fun when used in the right situations.
Watch my Table Top Video Review for the Umarex HK P30 AEG Full Auto Airsoft Pistol:
Type: Paintball Shotgun. Manufacturer:Umarex - T4E. Model:Umarex T4E HDB. Materials: Metal & Polymer. Weight: 5.52 pounds (2.5 kg). Barrel: 18.5 inches (470.5mm) Metal smooth bore. Power Source: 1x12 gram CO2. Action: Semi Auto DOA with Internal Magazine. Ammo Type: .68 Caliber Paintball or Rubber Ball. Ammo Capacity: 16 Rounds. FPS: 220 claimed
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on Umarex T4E HDB .68 Caliber Paintball Shotgun is basically a Double Action Only Trigger as there is no blowback or way in which to preload a hammer or striker system. So basically your finger does all the work so the trigger pull is I would say about medium length and about medium pull. It does works just fine for fairly rapid follow up shooting. Each pull of the trigger also extends a rear breach-like tube that seals off the CO2 from the internal magazine or there would be a lot of CO2 leakage.
Accuracy: Normally I do not get the chance to perform the Field Test before making my Table Tope Video Review but with the Umarex T4E HDB .68 Caliber Paintball Shotgun, I did it the other way around so I do have performance metrics I can share with you, at least summarized. I suggest watching my Full Field Test Shooting Video Review for the Umarex T4E HDB .68 Caliber Paintball Shotgun for a the full breakdown. In summary, the Umarex T4E HDB .68 Caliber Paintball Shotgun shot a bit low on the target but had a decent grouping of I would say around 4-6 inches which is really good for a Paintball Gun. In terms of power my Chronograph results shooting 5 rounds produced an average of 176fps but the temperature was not super warm so in warmer conditions you can expect this to go up a bit, I would say 200fps is realistic.
Build Quality: The build quality of the Umarex T4E HDB .68 Caliber Paintball Shotgun is really good for the lower price of this unit compared to other higher priced T4E products, you will get a pretty much all plastic outer shell. That said there is still a fair amount of metal in this PaintBall Shotgun including the barrel, internal magazine, sights, trigger, sling mounts and some internal parts. All in all the Umarex T4E HDB .68 Caliber Paintball Shotgun has a good weight and feel to it with nice fit and finish.
Realism: The Umarex T4E HDB .68 Caliber Paintball Shotgun as far as I know is not an exact replica of any specific Shotgun but it does look like what you would expect to see from a Pistol Grip Tactical Styled Shotgun. In terms of mechanical working parts everything does what it supposed to do and works as expected.
Accuracy was really good, probably my tightest grouping so far to date with a Paintball Gun shooting at 30 feet away.
Lots of mounting option for accessories like a tac light, laser or other sighting option with it’s top and side picatinny rail and M-LOK setup.
Quick CO2 pierce system so you can leave a CO2 in it ready to go any time with no worries about CO2 leaking out over time.
Simple to use Cross Bolt Safety.
Nice high capacity super easy to load 16 round magazine.
Ambidextrous sling mountain points.
Low cost for what you get compared to other Umarex/T4E products.
Build quality feels pretty good considering it is a much lower cost than other T4E rifles/shotguns.
Looks very intimidating.
Cons:
Mostly plastic external build.
Sights are not adjustable.
Will not get lots of shots per single CO2.
No rear stock so will not be as accurate using a non rested shooting posting.
Comments:
The Umarex T4E HDB .68 Caliber Paintball Shotgun is a well built and decent performing Paintball Shotgun and for the price you do get a lot of gun for your money. In some ways it even outperforms the HDX in my books including lower price, ease to load, quicker follow shots being semi auto, more compact size and even accuracy was better with the Umarex T4E HDB .68 Caliber Paintball Shotgun. So if you’re on a budget, don’t feel like you are compromising at all here, you are getting a really good Paintball Shotgun solution!
Yet another Field Test Shooting Video performed in the Replica Airguns Indoor Airgun Sea Can Shooting Range! In this Field Test I shoot the Umarex S&W M&P 9L Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol to see what kind of velocity and accuracy it has shooting .20 gram Airsoft BB’s with a brand new CO2 cartridge. If you are interested in the specifications and details along with some more close up video than watch my Table Top Review Video here.
Like pretty much every Field Test Shooting video I first perform the Chronograph Velocity Test since my CO2 is the most fresh at this point. I didn’t check the temperature in the Sea Can but I generally keep it around 20-22 degrees Celsius which is 68-72 Fahrenheit. I was a bit amazed at the high velocity of the Umarex S&W M&P 9L Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol in my testing as the claimed fps was 410 and most guns don’t live up to their claims exactly. The Umarex S&W M&P 9L Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol shooting 5 shots through the Chronograph averaged 431 fps with the slowest shot at 427fps and the fastest shot hitting 439fps so consistency was good!
Next I setup a fresh paper target 30 feet downrange and proceeded to place 10 rounds in it using a rested shooting position with my hands resting on a sandbag up front and seated in the back. Watch the video to see what actually happened but in a nut shell the Umarex S&W M&P 9L Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol shoots really high at 30 feet, at least 10 inches. So I did need to figure out where it was shooting before I actually got rounds on the paper. It was a bit hard to figure out the precise 10 shot grouping since some rounds may have even shot over the target when I was aiming at the bottom of the target but my best estimate is around 3-4 inches.
Other than the rather high shot placement which may be adjustable to some degree by adjusting the hop-up,I would say the Umarex S&W M&P 9L Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol is a very nice gun. The power is really good and may even be a bit much for close quarters indoor games but outdoors where you are shooting longer ranges it should perform well in these conditions. The blowback is very strong and the trigger feels good. If you don’t mind adjusting your shooting point a bit then the Umarex S&W M&P 9L Blowback CO2 Airsoft Pistol would be a great choice as your sidearm.
In this Preview Review Video I take a look at 4 newer products now in our Replica Airguns Online Store. One is a 4.5mm Steel BB Revolver, two are 6mm Airsoft Pistols and one is a .68 caliber Paintball Shotgun.
The first item I take look at in this video is the Umarex HK30 AEG Airsoft Pistol, this product is pretty entry level with analyst all plastic build and is very light to hold. It does however shoot in both semi and full auto since it is an AEG Airsfto Pistol (not many of them out there). The fps is rather low at a claimed fps at just under 200, the Umarex HK30 AEG Airsoft Pistol also comes with two 16 round remove; plastic magazines. Who knows, maybe it will be fun?
Next I take a look at the ASG Dan Wesson 2.5 inch 4.5mm Steel BB Gold Revolver. This is a CO2 powered shell loading BB revolver very much like similar ones I have reviewed in the past but in Gold finish. Will the gold finishes make it perform better, well I guess we better find out!
I then take a look at a “Glock Like” CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol for KJWorks called the KP13. It has a full size drop out metal magazine that holds the CO2 along with 24 rounds of 6mm Airsoft BB’s. The KJWorks KP-13 has a metal slide, metal magazine and polymer frame with a velocity over 360fps using the included barrel extension.
Last but perhaps the most interesting for me is the Umarex T4E HDB which is a lower cost Paintball/Rubber Ball Shotgun which could possibly be used for home protection? The T4E HDB is a mostly plastic constructed rifle with decent weight to it and uses an internal spring fed 16 round magazine. You will find all kinds of mounting points for accessories and for a sling on the Umarex T4E HDB and again at much lower cost than similar T4E rifle based Paintball/Rubber ball Airguns.
Umarex has released yet another Legends Replica Airgun and perhaps this one may be the most iconic yet, the M3 Grease gun with a history as far back as 1942. It was put into service int 1944 and then the later variant the M3A1 was used in the Korean War. Also make sure to watch my Table top Video for it for specifications and details along with more close up video.
Getting back to the Field Test Review for the Umarex Legends CO2 Blowback Full Auto M3 Grease Gun, as always I like to test each gun out in the Replace Airguns Indoor Sea Can Airguns Range first placing 5 rounds through my Chronograph to find out the real world velocity of each test gun, then I shoot 10 rounds in semi auto at a distance of 30 feet onto a paper target to see how tight of a grouping I can get shooting from a seated and rested position. With full auto Airguns I like to then perform a full auto shooting test to see how it groups in full auto as often times the full auto grouping will open up somewhat as some Blowback Full Auto Airguns do tend to move around a lot more in full auto mode.
For my Power or Velocity test I was using dual brand new CO2 cartages. Umarex does state that the Umarex Legends CO2 Blowback Full Auto M3 Grease Gun will shoot around 450 fps and with my 5 shot test I was able to confirm this and get close to this mark averaging 436fps. The temperature in the Sea Can was around 20 degrees Celsius or around 70 degrees Fahrenheit. Perhaps in warmer conditions I might hit the claimed 450 fps but I was close either way.
For my accuracy test I setup a new paper target 30 feet downrange and proceeded to place 10 shots into it using the peep sight on the Umarex Legends CO2 Blowback Full Auto M3 Grease Gun. I was fairly pleased with a fairly tight 1.5 inch grouping in semi auto. I then switched over to full auto fun mode and with the remaining BB’s I unloaded 50 or so rounds in very short order and as expected the grouping opened up to closer to a 4 inch grouping. This was kind of expected since the Umarex Legends CO2 Blowback Full Auto M3 Grease Gun uses an open bolt system which has a fairly heavy bolt which makes the blowback action more intense, similar to the KWC Mini Uzi but to a lessor degree.
Any time a company puts out another Full Auto Replica Rifle, especially full auto firing, I am 100% in on it. Both Crosman and Umarex have done a great job doing this and the Umarex Legends CO2 Blowback Full Auto M3 Grease Gun is another example of a well thought out and what I expect to be very popular Full Auto BB Rifle. Their Legends series encompasses guns of the later era which I personally really like since they are harder to come by in their real steel versions, so having them available in an easier to acquire version that you can even shoot in your back yard is a win win for everyone. I am also happy to confirm the high capacity double stack 60 round magazine seemed to feed pretty good for me only miss-feeding once during my testing while doing the Chronograph portion but it got back on track right away. If you’re into Full Auto Legendary Airguns then for sure pick one up from us!
In this Field Test Shooting Video I give the KWC DE L6 Desert Eagle CO2 Blowback Full Auto Airsoft Pistol my usual Indoor Sea Can shooting field test using my Chronograph to see what the average 5 shot velocity is with .20 gram plastic Airsoft BB’s. I then shoot 10 rounds in semi auto at a paper target setup 30 feet down range using a seated shooting position with my hands rested on a sand bag up front for stability to find out what the accuracy is in semi auto mode. I follow this up with a full mag demo in full auto to see how large of a spread we get with this gun jumping around. If you want information on specifications and details along with some close up video of the Cybergun Licensed L6 .50AE Desert Eagle GBB Airsoft Pistolthen watch my Table Top Video for it here.
Starting off with my Chronograph test, the KWC DE L6 Desert Eagle CO2 Blowback Full Auto Airsoft Pistol was able to get a 5 shot average of 392 fps with the fasters round hitting 400 fps and the slowest Airsoft BB recording 387 fps. Again I was using .20 gram Airsoft BB’s and the indoor temperature was around 20 degrees Celsius which is close to 70 degree Fahrenheit for reference so so the KWC DE L6 Desert Eagle CO2 Blowback Full Auto Airsoft Pistol performed even better than the claimed on the box 380 fps.
Moving on to the accuracy portion of my Field Test Test for the KWC DE L6 Desert Eagle CO2 Blowback Full Auto Airsoft Pistol, I carefully placed 10 rounds into my fresh paper target and was a bit dissapoitned in the rather spread out group I got. I feel like this is because of the high fps and lighter choice of Airosft BB I used for this test. When shooting a gun with higher fps it is best to use heavier Airsoft BB’s at least when it comes to accuracy as they won’t get that beach ball effect of floating around so much. I did also shoot the KWC DE L6 Desert Eagle CO2 Blowback Full Auto Airsoft Pistol in Full auto which does rock around a lot because of the heavy blowback recoil and as expected BB’s kind of went all over but if I was shooting at a human sized target from that range I am sure most rounds would have found their intended target.
Overall the KWC DE L6 Desert Eagle CO2 Blowback Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is a really nice Airsoft pistol. I love the way it looks and feels to hold in the hand and the blowback operation is very noticeable. It also shoots really hard for an Airsoft Pistol and other than the semi auto accuracy which may be corrected using heavier BB’s, it really does have a lot going for it. I may have to test it out again using heavier Airsoft BB’s to see if this improves accuracy for me at 30 feet out.
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the KWC DE L6 Desert Eagle CO2 Blowback Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is single action only which means you will need to rack the slide to not only draw the hammer back but to also chamber the first round. After that the blowback action will do this for you until you are out of ammo and then the slide will lock back. You can also manually draw the hammer back if a round is already chambered. The trigger itself is really nice, it’s light, super short with a crisp light release perfect for fast action shooting.
Accuracy: At this point I have not made my Field Test Shooting portion of my review for the KWC DE L6 Desert Eagle CO2 Blowback Full Auto Airsoft Pistol so I really don’t know what to expect? KWC claims an fps of 360 using CO2 as its power source and it is a realistic velocity based on previous Velocity tests with similar KWC Airsoft Guns. In terms of accuracy, again I have no idea since I have not reviewed this version of Desert Eagle before. So stay posted till next week when I make the Field Test Shooting Review for it.
Build Quality: Overall the metal and plastic build quality of the KWC DE L6 Desert Eagle CO2 Blowback Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is good. It is mostly metal with a plastic frame, the real steel version would have an aluminum frame and has a weight closer to 4 pounds total so a bit lighter in terms of weight compared to the powder burning version. The fit and finishes look good.
Realism: The KWC DE L6 Desert Eagle CO2 Blowback Full Auto Airsoft Pistol is an excellent Replica Airsoft version of the real steel L6 Desert Eagle including the top and bottom rails and the ported front barrel. It also has full blowback action and you can fully field strip it. I like the addition of the fingered grips which I think adds ot the overall looks and function of this Airsoft Pistol.
Pros:
Lots of metal and good overall weight to it.
Very accurate replica of Desert Eagle L6.
Ergonomic rubberized grips.
Semi and full auto selectable.
Adjustable hop-up.
No orange tip.
CO2 for more power over GBB.
Uses standard KWC CO2 Desert Eagle magazines.
Picatinny rail top and bottom for lots of accessory mounting options.
Great light weight single action only trigger with super short take-up.
Cons:
Frame is plastic so compared to real steel version is much lighter.
Non adjustable sights, also all black so may be hard to see on darker targets.
No trademarks since non-licensed version via KWC direct.
Very large gun with large grips so not suitable for smaller handed shooters.
Comments: Going off just the looks and feel for the KWC DE L6 Desert Eagle CO2 Blowback Full Auto Airsoft Pistol I can say for sure I do like it compared ot the standard KWC Desert Eagle with its venting up front and its ergonomic rubberized grips. I hope when I perform the Field Test Shooting Video fo fit it it performs well as the price point is good at around $200 Canadian and who doesn't want to have a Desert Eagle in their Replica Airgun collection at the end of the day!
My Table Top Video of the KWC DE L6 Desert Eagle CO2 Blowback Full Auto Airsoft Pistol:
Type:BB Rifle. Manufacturer: Umarex. Model: Legends M3 Grease Gun Materials: Mostly All Metal Construction. Weight: 7.7 pounds (3.5 kilograms). Length: 29.8 inches (757mm). Barrel Length: 8 inches (20 cm) smoothbore barrel. Propulsion: Dual CO2 Cartridge. Action: Semi & Full Auto Open Bolt Blowback Ammunition Type: 4.5mm steel BB's. Ammunition Capacity: 60 rounds. FPS: 460fps. Rate of Fire: 1050
Trigger Pull: The trigger pull on the Umarex Legends M3 Grease Gun is fairly light being a single action only trigger. You will have to open the bolt (pull it to the rear) which is located under the dust cover using your thumb but the recoil spring is not super heavy on the Airgun version. I would imagine this would take more effort on the real steel version.
Accuracy: I have not Field Test Reviewed the CO2 BB Full Auto Umarex Legends M3 Grease Gun as of yet but will be making a full Fields Test Review next week to find out what to expect in terms of accuracy on both semi and full auto modes along with velocity using brand new twin CO2 Cartridges.
Build Quality: The Umarex Legends BB Grease Gun is really made with form what I can see is an all metal construction at least on the outside. The fit and finishes feel and look really good and it has a nice balance and weight to it.
Realism: The Umarex Legends BB Firing M3 Grease Gun is based on the actual M3A1 version and looks just like it including the rough welds and simple build. Even the action is Open Bolt which means you have to pull the bolt back using your thumb or finger, then when you release the trigger the bolt moves forward loading a round in the chamber and then acting like the firing pin and firing the gun which in turn uses the pressure to cycle the bolt into the rear position ready to fire the next shot in either semi or full auto mode.
Pros:
Yet another Classic Legends Replica Airgun from Umarex.
Virtually all metal design with good overall weight.
Price is very reasonable for all metal replica machine gun in an all metal construction.
Semi and Full auto select-ability.
Dual CO2 design for increased shots and less cool down effect.
Super high capacity 60 round full size drop out metal magazine. (hopefully it works well)
Great looking replica of the real steel Grease Gun in looks, operation and feel.
Internal bolt blowback will give a bit of recoil feedback feel.
Uses a genuine open bolt system.
Recessed barrel for added realism.
Cons:
Sights are non-adjustable.
Hopefully high capacity magazine feeds consistently?
Selector switch under frame is not authentic but does allow for semi, full auto and safe modes.
Comments:
The Umarex Legends M3 Grease Gun is yet another great addition to not only the Legends Series of Umarex Airguns but also their Full Auto BB Rifle lineup! I am hoping the 60 round magazine feeds properly as double\ stack 4.5mm BB Rounds don’t always feed as well as Airsoft BB’s do. I guess we will find out when I make my Filed Test Shooting Video… That said the M3 Grease Gun is an excellent Replica of the real steel version with an all metal build and even a true to form open bolt blowback system. I really hope it performs well so I can recommend this Airgun, on first impressions and simply holding and looking around this BB Machine gun I am impressed so far.
My Table Top Video of the Umarex Legends Full Auto M3 Grease Gun:
In this Preview Unboxing Video I take a look at three new products just listed in our Replica Airguns Store. Two are products from Umarex both being CO2 4.5mm Steel BB and one is a CO2 powered KWC Blowback Airsoft Pistol. I don’t go into a ton of detail in this video but go over what is listed on the box and a quick walk around of each product.
First up I show off the KWC DE L6 CO2 Blowback Airsoft Pistol, it is much like the Cybergun Desert Eagle L6 I reviewed but without the orange tip and with notched pistol grips, also all back which is classic and looks great. This Blowback pistol shoots 6mm Airsoft BB’s at around 360 fps and has a full size dropout metal magazine that holds the CO2 along with 21 rounds.
Next I showcase a rather entry level 4.5mm CO2 BB Pump Action Rifle called the Umarex NXG Pump Shot that is a mostly plastic lighter weight build perfect for smaller or younger shooters. It uses CO2, shoots 4.5mm Steel BB’s and comes with a drop out 10 round rotary magazine. You will have to pump it before each shot but this makes the trigger fairly light.
Lastly but perhaps my favorite in this lineup I take a look at the CO2 4.5mm Blowback Umarex Legends M3 Grease Gun. Just like the real steel .45 caliber Grease Gun it is capable of full auto and also shoots in semi auto. You will find a full size drop out metal magazine that holds two CO2 cartridges along with 60 4.5mm steel BB’s. Thats a lot of rounds!
If you are wondering why I am doing another Field Test of a Crosman AR-15 type CO2 Full Auto BB Rifle… Well why not, any excuse to play around with one of these and I will take it. You never know, even though the Crosman R1 Fallen Patriots Blowback CO2 Full Auto BB Rifle is essentially just a re-skinned R1, what if it performs better or worse than the standard R1. I better test it out and find out for myself.
Like all my other Field Test Shooting Videos I test out the Velocity and Accuracy in the Replica Airguns Indoors Sea Can Shooting Range where I can control the temperature, wind and lighting conditions. The goal is to see if the velocity is what the manufacturer claims and what kind of groupings I can get in this case shooting 10 rounds in semi auto and the rest in full auto.
Starting with my velocity test for the Crosman R1 Fallen Patriots Blowback CO2 Full Auto BB Rifle I shot five 4.5mm Steel BB’s through my Chronograph and was able to average 389 fps. Crosman claims a max fps of 430 which would be best case scenario in what would most likely be fairly warm shooting conditions. During my testing the temperature was not overly warm or cool, right around room temperature so around 20 degrees Celsius (70 ish degrees Fahrenheit) and I was using dual brand new CO2 Cartridges.
Next I tested out the accuracy for the Crosman R1 Fallen Patriots Blowback CO2 Full Auto BB Rifle first shooting 10 rounds in semi auto and then dumping the rest of the magazine in full auto. Right out of the box using the iron pop-up sights I was able to get all but 1 shot in the Bulls-eye which is about 1 inch in diameter so not only is the Crosman R1 Fallen Patriots Blowback CO2 Full Auto BB Rifle very accurate but it was really well centered out of the box in my case. Switching over to full auto the grouping spread out as expected more to around 2+ inches and placing a bit lower on the target but this is expected when shooting a blowback Airgun in full auto as it will move around a bit.
I do have to say the Crosman R1 Fallen Patriots Blowback CO2 Full Auto BB Rifle is probably one of the best looking AR’s in the Crosman series of Full Auto BB Rifles and I am happy to report the performance was as expected since I have done several Field Test Shooting Reviews for this series of BB Rifles. No you do not get a red dot with the Crosman R1 Fallen Patriots Blowback CO2 Full Auto BB Rifle but rather more old school iron sights but it really suits this BB Machine Gun and for me it didn’t hurt performance at all!
